STAR WARS
Super Star Destroyers:
History of the “five mile” fallacy.

1979?:

At some point in the development of The Empire Strikes Back it was decided that Lord Vader would have a distinctive flagship representing an elite class. At first it was thought that Executor would be another kind of destroyer, with advanced engine systems making it an exceptionally fast vessel. Instead, later concepts were upgraded to a battleship scale, so that impressive size, not speed, became the emphasis. Unfortunately, some (but by no means all) of the later spin-off literature overlooked the size upgrade, retaining the obselete and incorrect “destroyer” label.

1980:

The Empire Strikes Back Official Poster Monthly of 1980 makes a loose statement regarding the size of the Executor.

... but none is as vast or as ominous as the Dark Lord's personal space ship, the Executor. Larger and stronger than five ordinary Star Destroyers Vader's craft is so enormous that its topside resembles a metropolitian skyline in size and shape. Here the Lord of the Sith broods and commands...

Strictly and logically, this statement only states that the Executor is larger than an ISD, and that it is more than five times as powerful. It does not specify the length as being exactly five times the length of the ISD, only that it is greater than the ISD. Later references based on this source seem to have taken a wilder interpretation than what is logically justifiable.

There are two theories about the origins of the ambiguous statement above. The first is that the “five” actually refers to the number of star destroyers attending the Executor in Lord Vader's taskforce. The second theory is that one of the earlier design concepts for the Executor really was five miles long, and somehow this old data was misapplied to the larger, final version.

At one stage, Kenner considered including an item based on the Executor in their toy line. The developers considered the ship's true name too scary for children, so they invented the “super star destroyer” label. This term is insensitive to realistic naval terminology, unlike the more intelligent “battlecruiser” and “battleship” designations used in Williamson's STAR WARS newspaper comic strip.

1983:

Return of the Jedi includes the Executor in many shots, and the scaling relative to other vessels is consistent with The Empire Strikes Back. It is approximately eleven times the length of a star destroyer.

Executor is repeatedly referred to as a “commandship” or “command ship”, not a destroyer. The only exception is one utterance of “super star destroyer” by Admiral Ackbar, but this is excuseable because: Ackbar was not speaking in his native tongue; he probably only knows the rebel slang name for such ships; he was speaking in the heat of battle; and his line was a late and hasty addition to the movie anyhow (it missed inclusion in the novel).

1984:

The first edition of A Guide to the STAR WARS Universe, published in the year following the release of Return of the Jedi says:

Lord Darth Vader's personal flagship; classified as a Super Star Destroyer --- approximately five times larger and more destructive than any Star Destroyer in the Imperial Fleet. Executor represents the best and newest vessel available in the Imperial inventory. Like most ships in its class, Executor is used as a command ship, a spacegoing headquarters...

Also note that this is the first time that “super star destroyer” is treated as if it were a formal classification, rather than a colloquialism. This myth grew in parallel with the length error.

1987:

For the tenth anniversary of A New Hope, STAR WARS: The Roleplaying Game was released. The SWRPG laid down most of the groundwork for future fiction, fleshing out the galaxy glimpsed on film into the framework for a complete universe. For many years these books were the only significant STAR WARS product on sale. The STAR WARS Sourcebook was cautious with regard to the Executors:

Lord Vader's new flagship and pride of the squadron is the Executor, the first Super-class Star Destroyer. Already this class of four ships has begun to gain acceptance among the admiralty...

Note that the writer has jumped to the conclusion that the naval designation of this class of vessels is “Super-class”. This defies maritime convention. The proper classname is based on the name of the first ship built according to the design. That being the Executor in this case, the designation should actually be Executor-class. A correction was later made in the novel Shield of Lies, but the notion that the Executor is a destroyer, rather than a battleship or commandship, persists unfortunately.

1989:

Unfortunately The Imperial Sourcebook, released almost two years later, fell to the error made by A Guide to the STAR WARS Universe (which was probably treated as reference material), but it deepened the problem by stating the incorrect length in explicit and absolute units:

Except for the Death Star battle station, the Super-class Star Destroyer is the largest warship ever constructed. Five times the length of an Imperial Star Destroyer ... over 1000 turbolaser batteries, ion cannons, and tractor beam emplacements dot the eight kilometre length ... Four of these massive vessels are now in service.

In order to support this figure, a distorted likeness of an Executor was shown in what is claimed to be a scale diagram with the ISD and other capital starships. In relation to the bridge tower, the body of the ship has been shrunk. The sections aft of the bridge tower are grossly diminished, leaving space for no more than nine of the actual thirteen engines. (The fantail engine banks are present, and possibly the wing bank, but the middle bank is definitely absent.)

1993:

Almost five years later, Starlog produced a three-volume magazine titled as the STAR WARS Technical Journal. The second volume, Imperial Forces, has this to say:

The first of the Super Star Destroyers, the Executor, was built for Lord Darth Vader as his personal flagship. More than four times the length of a standard Star Destroyer, the colossal Executor was the largest vessel in space, with the sole exception of the Death Star itself.

On the surface, this looks like an even worse figure than the mistake which was unwittingly promulgated by West End Games, however on inspection it reduces to the simple statement that the Executor is something greater than four times the ISD length, which allows “eleven times” just as well as it allows “five times”. The author was probably aware of the serious error in other recent sources but for one reason or another felt censoriously constrained. On other matters, such as the positioning of TIE Fighter cockpit hatches and the deck plans of the Millennium Falcon he was unafraid to cite the films as primary evidence, overturning errors in second-generation materials.

Meanwhile the LucasArts Entertainment Company, itself a division of Lucasfilm, has used “super star destroyers” in some of its computer game products. Images of these giant vessels in scenes of TIE Fighter are correctly proportioned, unlike the WEG diagrams. Dark Forces and Rebel Assault II are faithful to the larger length portrayed in the STAR WARS films and directly defy the error propagated by West End Games.

1994:

Within the last year another book, extensively illustrated and based on the actual film props of the Lucasfilm Archives has been released. From STAR WARS to Indiana Jones [SW2IJ], benefits from access to primary artefacts, and the text succinctly states:

... the flagship of Darth Vader, was conceived as eleven times the size of the original Star Destroyer of Star Wars. (For reference, the conning tower that rises from Executor was supposed to be as big as the original destroyer's conning tower.)

1995:

Authors for West End Games, Bantam, and Del Rey continued to use the false length in text. They obviously either felt a censorious influence, failed to notice the SW2IJ correction or else decided that consistency amongst their own products was more important to them than consistency with the films. For example, STAR WARS Essential Guide to Vehicles and Vessels states:

... at 8000 metres long, it was the largest ... at over five times the length of a standard Star Destroyer ...

Note, however that some illustrations printed in SWRPG products depict Executor-class ships with accurate dimensions relative to ISDs. The image of the Guardian in Wanted by Cracken (1993) is an excellent example of this.

At the grassroots level, discussion of the problem of the Executor length has run spasmodically for several years on InterNet newsgroups. With the advantage of modern videotape capabilities, many individual STAR WARS devotees have independently discovered the “five mile” fallacy.

When the conception of Essential Guide to Vehicles and Vessels became known to the world, early in 1995, I constructed the first version of this web page for the purpose of bringing the error to wider public notice and to improve the chance that the first edition of the then-impending book would contain a truthful Executor length.

1996:

Since that time some progress has been made in the official literature. Shadows of the Empire, arguably the most ambitious and significant STAR WARS novel to date, has refrained from quoting the “five mile” figure, which seemed almost obligatory for every earlier novel which contained an Executor-class commandship. The STAR WARS Customizable Card Game's newly-released card depicting the Executor renounces the old error in a cautious way, admitting that the flagship is “over eight kilometres long”.

The Topps Widevision card sets include several stills which show the true relative sizes of the Executor and escorting ISDs as seen in the film. Significantly, card #13 of The Emprie Strikes Back elegantly states something which is very close to the undistorted idea originally promulgated by Lucasfilm:

Executor, larger and more awesome than the five Imperial Star Destroyers that surround it, sits in the vastness of space.

The essential idea is this: The Executor had five ISD escorts immediately before the Battle of Hoth. The Executor was larger and more powerful than all of them. The specification of a five-mile length is simply a historical distortion.

A new novel, X-Wing: The Bacta War indicates that the standard mile-long star destroyer is less than one tenth of the size of the Executor-class command ship Lusankya. This is compatible with the correct relative dimensions of the ships. Refer to p.302 of that publication. The section is quoted in the Novel References pages.

1997:

After seventeen years, AMT/ERTL planned to release a model kit of the Executor. The model has been assigned a catalogue number of #6351 and was originally due out in August 1997. It seems to have been cancelled, at least for the moment. If it is ever produced, it shall be interesting to see whether this kit depicts the thirteen-engine, eleven-mile vessel seen in the films, or else the contradictory, distorted, nine-engine, five-mile figment detailed in roleplaying game sources.

An upgrade to LucasArts' X-Wing vs TIE Fighter commputer game, set before the Battle of Endor, entitled Balance of Power, includes a “Super Star Destroyer” as a target. This ship is called Vengeance (making it at least the third vessel with that name). It is commanded by Admiral Senn, and it is stationed in Airam sector. It matches neither the Executor's features exactly, nor the mythical five-mile ship from WEG. The shape resembles the Executor better than the RPG figment, but the statistics displayed within the game indicate the usual erroneous 8km length. [ Refer to this screenshot].

There is one significant detail of difference from the Executor shape: there are only eleven thrusters; the two wing engine banks are reduced from three to two cylinders each.

Interestingly, the art on the game's package indicates what seems to be the proper eleven-mile size. This is ilustrated in the game manual and box cover. According to N.Gellock, the Vengeance appears to be at least as long as eight destroyers in the box art.

1998:

Archeologist and Lucasfilm employee Dr David West Reynolds has taken measurements of the original Executor model in the Lucasfilm Archives. He took the measurements on my personal request, for use in this site. Scaling according to the constant command tower, the total length is calculated to lie between 17.4km and 17.8km. The most likely definitive value for the Executor length is 17.6km.

A web page [ http://www.starwars.com/vehicles/executor/] within the Official STAR WARS web site states:

The Executor is over eight times the size of an Imperial-class Star Destroyer.

This is still only a lower limit, but it is much better than the one used by Decipher's card game. Assuming that “size” means length, the web site is stating that the Executor is longer than 12.9km.

The multimedia CD-ROM product Behind the Magic contains a few statements about the Executor. In some parts it states a length of eight kilometres; elsewhere it says 12.8km.

2004:

The reference book Inside the Worlds of Star Wars: Trilogy by James Luceno corrects the record of the Executor's length: nearly a dozen times the length of a star destroyer. In other words, it is at least 11 miles long, but not quite 12 miles. All newer sources should include the corrected length.

Furthermore, “super star destroyer” is confirmed as rebel slang for warships larger than a common star destroyer, including star cruisers and star dreadnoughts. The Executor-class is an example of a star dreadnought, the top-line battleships of their day.

2005:

Several new publications state a length of 19km for the Executor: near the upper end of the 11 – 12 mile range. A “databank” at the Official SW Site is updated to the same figure.

2006:

A preview of the Starship Battles miniatures game from Wizards of the Coast affirms Executor's 19km length. Further, it reports that the name “Super-class star destroyer” was originally a budgetary deception to hide the ship's vast nature from the Imperial Senate. Thus the colloquialism “Super Star Destroyer” arose. This implies that design began before the Battle of Yavin, and that there wasn't really a completed ship class called “Super.”


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The distorted “Super Star Destroyer” drawing from The Imperial Sourcebook. Note the absence of the main ventral docking cavity, the misplacement and oversizing of the command tower, and the reduction from three engine banks to just one (or debatably two).

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This elegant image of the damaged Guardian, from Wanted by Cracken is important as an example of an image in the roleplaying game reference which has somehow been allowed to depict the command ship and star destroyers in realistic proportions.

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Screenshots from Balance of Power. The Vengenace is generally similar in shape to the Executor; it seems to have been intended as a ship of that class. Viewed beside an ISD at the same height, it seems to be about five miles long. (In the comparison image, it's roughly 4.95 miles. This scaling is, of course, irreconcilable with The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi.) [J.Helper]

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The Vengeance as shown in the decorative art of the manual and box cover of Balance of Power. [G.Dalton; *]

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Further general long-range tactical views of the Vengenace. [E.Meadows.]

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Views of the stern and engine arrays. There are 11 engines, unlike the 13 of the Executor in the movies, and unlike the mere 9 engines of the more-heavily distorted RPG version. [J.Helper; E.Meadows, E.Meadows.]

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The command tower is the standard KDY shape (seemingly unlike that of the coincidentally-named Vengeance from Dark Forces II), but it may have been shrunk in order to conform with the incorrect ship length. Interestingly though, the linear array structure usually placed between the scanner globes is absent. [J.Helper]

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“Super Star Destroyers”.
STAR WARS Technical Commentaries.
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